'Now I am in a semi-underground state. Semi-underground assuming that I have no warrant from the government now. We have kept our party CPN Masal underground. As its chief minister, I am semi-underground. Not completely underground, not completely open. '
CPN Masal General Minister Mohan Vikram Singh, who is rarely seen in public events, was seen at the ongoing Nepal Literature Festival in Pokhara on Saturday. On the third day of the festival, Vijayakumar interacted with him during the 'Dimensions of Politics and Literature' session. At the beginning of the conversation, he said that he was still semi-underground. He said that even though the government did not issue a warrant against him, he was also semi-underground because the party was kept semi-underground.
Edited part of Vijayakumar's dialogue with Mohanvikram Singh, who recently published his novel 'Comrade Jaljala' after 23 years:
Are you semi-underground or underground these days?
I'm semi-underground . A long time of my 90 years of life has been spent in Nepal's democratic movement and left-wing movement. I spent most of my life in prison. I went underground. Now I am semi-underground. Semi-underground assuming that I currently have no warrant from the government . We have kept our party CPN Masal underground. As its Chief Minister, I am semi-underground. Not entirely underground, not entirely open .
Are you Bhishmapitamah of Nepali Communist Movement? Your disciples have big names Prachandaji, Baburamji, Maharaji. This list is getting longer . Are you proud or sad to see your disciple today? Or is that how life seems to be?
First, let us mention the relationship between guru and disciple. We do not consider this relationship as a relationship between guru and disciple. Some came to the party a few days earlier, some came a little later. It is not a relationship between a guru and a disciple, but a relationship between our friends . Thus, I worked in the party with thousands of friends in the country. Some friends separated from us. I don't even consider him a disciple. I don't even consider myself a guru. We are comrades in the democratic and left-wing movement of Nepal. And our perspectives are different. However, I would like to thank everyone who is supporting the country's democratic movement and left wing movement in any way.
Do you have any complaints about them ? Not a
, there are many differences . That difference and disagreement means that we have considered some policies and programs adopted by other friends to be wrong . We misjudged them, they misjudged us. So who is good and who is wrong? It is something that will be recorded in the long stream of history . If you were to teach again today, would you give the old education or the new education? Or that education was right for that time, today's era needs a different education.
What was right or wrong? As old as things were. The basic principles are still valid. However, we have adopted policies in various periods of behavioral history. Many are old. Many were wrong. We have been adopting new ideas in new situations. That will change in history . And we don't say all the old ideas are wrong. He was right in his time, so he did. Many of them have been wrong. How wrong are the ideas we adopted. How wrong are the ideas adopted by other friends . That will be recognized by history and behavior.
You have always advocated armed struggle for a long time in the country. Your disciples implemented . If you have to teach today, do you add a new chapter or will the old one suffice?
Which is the principle of armed struggle, Marxism-Leninism says that armed struggle is mandatory for changes in the current system and for changing the country. There are methods for that. Eat milk, eat ghee and use medicine. Time should be taken care of. Therefore, we do not say that the principle of armed struggle is wrong. Where that mistake happened, the Marxist-Leninist theory has created the process and situation of struggle. They did not use it properly. That's why the struggle was wrong. That's why we say radical left . In some cases, we adopted terrorism. That is wrong . The principle of armed struggle is not wrong. What he used was not in accordance with Marxist theory and therefore it was wrong.
Your disciples, in whatever way they did activities in life, as their lifestyle changed. How they earned in legitimate and illegitimate ways. That many communists came out hoping to be cheated one day?
It is not only in Nepal but also in the world that many numbers of communists have fallen. There are deviations. have been corrupted . This world is global. Its effect is also in Nepal. Like say a Muslim is . One is Buddhist, one is Hindu. There is a staff, there is a teacher . There are rules about what everyone should do. People deviate from the rules. The communists did exactly the same. What should be done? There are theories to say why we are communists. There are rules. However, a large number of communists have deviated from that principle, conduct, and rule. Such deviations have appeared all over the world. Even in Nepal, its effect has been seen in the communists . A large number of communists are not what they should be. Those who are Buddhists are not Buddhists and have deviated from it. Muslims, Buddhists, all in the same way communists have fallen in large numbers . have been corrupted . That thing has also happened in Nepal. Those who deviate from the communist principles are not communists. We cannot call them communists. In the name of the Communists, they have misled us.
You are also a philosopher . Today's communist is not the same as communist . A Democrat is not the same as a Democrat . Monarchy is not the same as Monarchy . Everything seems to be fake . Is there a fake royalist, fake communist, fake Congress? Since today's society is one of intermixture, mishmash, it is natural to join the communists. That the communists should create a specific character of their own ? Whether a communist can be different is a matter of ?
There are millions of communists in this world. Those who are like communists, they have abandoned . have sacrificed . He has worked for the welfare of the country and the people. Call it bourgeois, call it Nepali Congress, call it any other party, there are many bourgeois leaders, artists and writers in the world and in Nepal. Those who have fulfilled their responsibilities as written in the principle . Talking about the king, we also have a king like Prithvi Narayan in history . Who unified the scattered states in Nepal. Such kings are found all over the world. Who are patriotic . If you look at the kings of Nepal, there have been kings who are very corrupt, indulge in personal interests, smuggle, adopt policies of wrong nature, and adopt wrong policies for selfish interests. Appeared all over the world. Therefore, while talking about communists, there are a large number of communists in the world and according to their principles and policies, they have given up and sacrificed for their revolution. And he has dedicated his life for that . Both of these trends can be seen in all areas. Employees get .
God, you probably don't agree! However, nature accepts it . Do you have any regrets when you look back on your life? That your disciples have reached where . They have made a lot of progress in the world language. Do you regret in your life ?
I have also made many mistakes in life. If you have to evaluate it, there is a different part . And the main thing is that I have the opportunity, context, and pride. That is my principles and for that I am constantly moving. So I have no regrets . Even now, I am constantly moving forward for my principles, objectives . But, as I have repeatedly said, I have many friends who have been disturbed by the party's principles . By doing so, there are many who have been corrupted and deviated from the principles adopted by the parties of Nepal including bourgeois parties, democratic parties. We have seen what an honest communist worker should be. However, there are many corrupt communist employees. Similarly, we see in the police, army, writers, artists . There are many examples of those who have deviated from their principles and beliefs. So that thing is wrong . I have tried to give the same kind of approach and vision in my Jaljala novel. I have tried to present some ideals for the world and for our own Nepal and for the Communists. As a
writer, you look at life, the world and politics. The title of the work is 'Comrade Jaljala', people say that you wrote it in the name of your girlfriend . Is that true?
This is an attempt . The main remedy is its aspect. It is my effort to present the outlook towards life, philosophy, and the entire society. That life is not entirely imaginary. However, I have also taken the help of Kalpana in that . There are also many real life incidents of mine. I have also tried to give many real events of the society and our friends. So reality is a mixture of truth and imagination. That is the conclusion of all .
As you see life as a writer, the world as a politician, is there something flat or different? Is writing an extension of politics for you?
There is a sentence in the first prologue of the Jaljala novel, "The relationship between this world and the individual is an interrelationship". It is intimate .' is also true about my life . Relationships about literature and politics are both part of life . So all of them are not separate from each other . My political life, which is about 70 years of political life, is also connected with literature. Politics is also connected. Both of these are different aspects of the same thing . However, they are intermixed. There is a close relationship between them .
for which purpose I have tried in my political life, I have also done it through literature . Now my novel 'Comrade Jaljala' I had written five novels before this . They are all gone . Could not be published. I have written many books and articles in the political field. Its forms are different in different places. But, basically, literature and politics are interrelated parts of life, society, and the world. are connected to each other . Can't be seen differently. They are different, they are the same . We are each individual .
