Congress Vice President and MP Dhanraj Gurung was found to have taken money from Meen Bahadur Gurung, the owner of Bhatbhateni supermarket, while repaying the loan taken from Miteri Cooperative in Lalitpur. After Gurung was released from the post of Law Minister for about 1 year, Dhanraj took 82 lakh 27 thousand rupees from Meen Bahadur through 6 cheques.

In this context, Kantipur's conversation with Congress vice-chairman Gurung :

The fact that you have taken money from businessman Meen Bahadur Gurung to pay off the cooperative's debt has become public. Meen Bahadur Gurung businessman, you are a politician and a law minister. How did you two meet?

The matter is clear, the first thing is that I took a loan from Meen Bahadur for the purpose of paying the cooperative. Calling every day that I have to pay from the cooperative, how much is my share? If you do not separate the part, you have to pay the debt of your friends, where do we go looking for Jyoti Gurung.

I've got a 'divorce', they won't separate the debt file of the two. After that, you have to pay everything, If you don't pay, we will publish it in the newspaper as well, he was surprised. If I had such intentions, I would have taken bribes when I was a minister. I would have asked for another secretary. Lapche could not be beaten. If the cooperative had cheated, they would not have asked anyone.

Good governance should be maintained, even though he was a minister, because he worked without doing hanky-panky, the co-operatives finally started complaining. I told Meen Bahadur dai that I had to pay for the honor, and then I said, "Brother, there is such a crisis, Brother Sahakari has done so badly, and they had to help me so much with the minimum interest."

, 10 percent is fine, the city council has imposed a 17-18 percent interest rate, I said I am ready for 10 percent. After that, I took a loan by hiring a lawyer, writing a paper, keeping a witness, and signing the right and left thumbprints on the paper. It is sad when people ask why you should take a loan, why should you take a loan with someone, even after taking a loan on paper.

But on the 30th of August, a news was published in Kantipur about this issue, at that time, you said, "I was overwhelmed by debt and sold the house and paid the cooperative's money."

I say that even now, because the house has been sold. The house was mortgaged to the cooperative, auctioned. And when the cooperative came later and started showing the loan saying that the house was not enough, it was like a kind of 'blackmailing'. 

But the paper did not support your statement because according to the   'statement' of the loan that was seen by the parliamentary committee and made public, your loan to the cooperative was about 91 lakh rupees. He has taken almost the same amount of money from Meen Bahadur Gurung. Why did you take a loan from Meen Bahadur if you sold the house?

The money of the house was completely taken by the cooperative. Even after that, interest, interest on top of interest, he said, 91 lakh is left. Then I should not look for a loan? The house was also sold and paid for, after much of that, I was shocked when you started saying that your debt is so much. 

What it says in the cooperative's statement is that you have paid only 1 lakh, 4 lakh, 5 lakh to the cooperative. Doesn't it look like selling the house and paying a huge amount at once?

It happened later. It was taken home before that.

You can say this in your party, if the state investigates, you can say it, but you are the vice chairman of the biggest party in this country, the law minister, a person sitting in the judicial council, but the state is fighting a case against Meen Bahadur Gurung in various courts, why do you have to ask for a loan with him? Looking at Iman's face, it looks very weak, doesn't it?

is the loan taken after I left the ministry. 

You resigned as a minister on February 21 and took a loan on May 17, so that was only about two months apart?

It does not mean that you cannot take a loan from a friend just because you are a former law minister. 

There is a case going on between the state and Meen Bahadur Gurung, did you take a loan as soon as you left as law minister? 

His case is ongoing. What happened to the case? He may have tried his case. Can the case be contested, and can I intervene in that case?

What is the other relationship that Meen Bahadur owes you?

is siblings. Can't get a loan if you are a sibling? I can ask friends. Can't ask for a loan with paper? The giver said he will give the paper. I am not concerned with the case. A

transaction can be done with a person with whom there is no conflict of interest. You took money from a person who is fighting a case against the government right after you left the law ministry, right after you left the law ministry, right after you left the law ministry, didn't you?

What happened to the judicial council? I didn't understand. What does Meen Bahadur have to do with the judicial council? Even if he is a minister, he cannot interfere in the court. The court is independent. This is what you write sometimes. Even the prime minister cannot interfere in the court, let alone the minister. The judge is independent, the judge interprets the law, not Dhanraj Gurung. No minister can do that. Therefore, how is the 'conflict of interest'?

Answer this question politically and legally in the right place, but there is another question, your then wife Jyoti Gurung, whom you divorced in February 2076. What is your current legal relationship with him?

This is what happened in February 2076. 

In February 2076, there is a document stating that your relationship was divorced, but when you took a loan from the cooperative in February 2077, you wrote Jyoti Gurung in the name of your wife in the title deeds? 

There was a file of loans taken with house mortgage. After filing the loan, I said I want 10-15 lakhs. I was told to give 12 lakhs instead of 15 lakhs, but I said I can give up to 10-12 lakhs. Then the person who wrote to keep the old loan on file filled out the form and let me correct it. I have seen the letters there, I did not fill the form. The form is filled by the employee.

If I had filled and written Jyoti Gurung Smt. But I didn't fill the form, after putting it in the old file, I signed it and left after taking 12 lakhs. But later he filled it again, he must have done it by looking at the old file. And Mrs. Jyoti Gurung has been written in the title. Can that 'official' weakness be imposed on me? Can I be blamed?

In February 2076, Jyoti Gurung wrote in Hakwala while taking a loan in February 2077 after getting divorced. And he says no. Another serious thing is that during the election on November 4, 2079, he again wrote Jyoti Gurung's name in his wife's name. Can the name of a free woman divorced by the court be written as wife?

You know, the procession is huge when it comes to filing nominations. That form was not filled by me, who filled it my friend, it is not updated even now. I asked the Election Commission of Syangja that the newspapers were writing that his wife's name was written as Jyoti Gurung even in the 2079 election. The news came that the brother is still Jyoti Gurung, but there is no update here.

I have an old passport, Jyoti Gurung is written on it as the closest person. And I got a diplomatic passport when I was a minister. When I go to get it, I have named my son as the nearest one. I have kept it as long as I can, now I can see it. That's why the update will be slow. National ID says I am 'single', divorced. It may be updated, but it may not be updated all at once. Since it is not updated, the name of the wife is still on the voter ID card.

It's not an update when you register your candidacy, it's a new paper that you fill and submit, right?

is filled by workers, where does the leader go and fill it? The worker went and filled up, I arrived at 4 o'clock that day. Everything is ready, please correct it quickly, as time is running out, correct it and submit it. Therefore it is considered evidence and Lord? The evidence is from the court, isn't it?

Since you are the Minister of Law, after writing as wife in the candidate nomination paper, do you consider it legal or not?

has yet to be updated on it, will update now. It will be updated.

Is it possible for the vice-chairman of a democratic liberal party like Congress to fill in the form as my wife who has become independent?

does not match. But I found out that my friend had written it after filling the form. 

Parliament formed a special committee to investigate the issue of cooperatives, there is a demand of the people that there should be an investigation and the culprits should be punished and news is also coming in the media. But why are you not being investigated even though there is so much to talk about?

The first thing is that the liability of criminal offense cannot be transferred. Number two, as Ravi Lamichhane was the MD of Gorkha Media, I am neither the MD of Miteri Sahakari nor anything. 

Ravi Lamichhane's question will be with him, your question with you. Is it not possible to show Dhanraj Gurung when asking Ravi and Ravi when asking Dhanraj?

So, have you ever written why Nikita Paudel (Ravi Lamichhane's wife) was not brought into the scope of the investigation?

There is a separate news about Nikita, there has been a question about Sai Swagat Sahakari about Nikita, the news has been printed.

I was on the board of directors of Miteri Cooperative, do you think I embezzled the savings there? 

Your then wife Jyoti Gurung had embezzled the funds of the cooperative and the cooperative called you for a discussion in December 2076. You said that we would settle it, but two months later in February, you left with the papers of 'divorce', didn't you?

Don't talk about such nonsense. It is said that the cooperative called, discussed and taught what? Do you believe in walking around on what someone has taught you to be free?

The chairman of Miteri Cooperative has told this to the parliamentary inquiry committee, right?

Can Dhanraj Gurung bear the brunt of the crime to seek immunity from the chairman of the cooperative? That's what I don't understand. In other co-operatives, who is the president and manager of Jhyajhyap co-operatives are all under investigation. Here, by 'targeting' me, this conspiracy is going on with all intents on how to assassinate my character. That's all I understand. Is this a conspiracy, if not, how did such an embezzlement happen without the consent of the chairman of the cooperative? 

What is the relationship between you, Dhanraj Gurung of Syangja, Meen Bahadur Gurung of Khotang, so that there is a transaction of 9 million?

My nephew is already married, it doesn't mean that everything should be open like this. My nephew got married from Khotangai, why did I have to tell everything. Loans can be taken from friends. I didn't take it, I took a paper saying that I will pay 10 percent interest, I took it with fingerprints from both hands. 

But the fact that the house was sold and the loan was also not agreed?

The house is already shaking. That is a mortgage.

There is a difference between mortgage and sale, do you mortgage or sell your home? The

was on the mortgage. The cooperative said that it was not enough to sell it. Even after that, it came that there is a debt of Rs. I was forced to pay after calling every day. 

You took a loan from the cooperative for 18 million, right?

, but how much is the amount of interest? It took the cooperative to take care of the people.

How much did the co-operative appraise your home? How much

had done in the same way, it was done in Serofero. 

means 2 crore or 1 crore?